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Giant "scuttle" (Bahamas and other Carribean islands): The pearl divers and other oceanic workers in the Bahamas and nearby regions talk of giant scuttles, scuttle being their name for an octopus. Unlike the lusca, these are not cave dwellers, but roam the deeper open-water areas. One pearl diver testified how when he was young a giant octopus came up beneath his boat, but it couldn't get a good hld so it left him alone. The fishermen say that these emmense scuttles are only dangerous if they can get one tentecle in the the boat and another one firmly around the hull, forming a vice grip. These may or may not represent the same species a the lusca, and at least they are closely related. These may also be the creatures behind the krakken legend.